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Yeah, Wal-Mart, whose employee health plan carries a $1,500 annual
deductible on top of unaffordably high fees, and whose "401K" contributes a generous $5 per employee biweekly. Wal-Mart, whose average worker doesn't make enough money to support even half a family. Wal-Mart can't lower gas emissions without the FULL cooperation of its suppliers, without which Wal-Mart can't exist! Who is Wal-Mart trying to kid? ---------------------- "Wal-Mart promises to lower greenhouse gas emissions by 2015" By Ylan Q. Mui Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, February 26, 2010; A19 Wal-Mart vowed on Thursday to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 20 million metric tons across its vast network of suppliers and stores by 2015, part of the retailer's ongoing efforts to become more environmentally friendly. Wal-Mart said the reductions would more than offset the anticipated growth in its carbon footprint over the same period and was equivalent to taking 3.8 million cars off the road for a year. The cuts would be made throughout its supply chain, from manufacturing to transportation to the sales floor. "We will be efficient," Wal-Mart Chief Executive Mike Duke said in a news conference Thursday. "We will be the leader in retailing, because we will be the first to look at the whole supply chain." The announcement was the latest initiative in the retailer's quest to transform itself into a more sustainable company. When Wal-Mart promised five years ago to create zero waste, use only renewable energy and sell more environmentally friendly products, the call to action rippled across its 8,400 stores worldwide and more than 100,000 suppliers. Company executives said that they hoped this would have a similar effect. "I think this is real leadership," said Fred Krupp, president of the Environmental Defense Fund, a nonprofit organization that worked with Wal-Mart on the project. "Wal-Mart is looking at the big picture." Wal-Mart said it would initially focus on several hundred suppliers and products with the highest carbon footprints. Matt Kistler, senior vice president of sustainability, said that includes reducing transportation emissions and waste for fresh foods and could mean developing new clothing materials that require less energy to clean. The company also announced changes to DVD packages that used less plastic and made them weigh less. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...022505453.html |
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BUT "GOING GREEN" IS GOING BUST!
================ "The green jobs myth" By Sunil Sharan Friday, February 26, 2010; A23 "Green jobs" have become a central underpinning of the Obama administration's rationale to promote clean energy. But how valid is the assumption that a "clean-energy" economy will generate enough jobs to mitigate today's high level of unemployment -- new jobless claims were up 22,000 this week -- and to meet the needs of future generations? A green economy would have to spout jobs in the millions to do both. The facts challenge the prevailing thinking among some policymakers and officials that green jobs are a principal reason for transforming the economy. Let's consider just one clean-energy sector, the smart grid, for its job-creation potential. The Obama administration allocated a little more than $4 billion in funding from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act to the smart grid, an unprecedented amount for a hitherto-neglected but critical piece of our national infrastructure. Much of this is to be spent installing close to 20 million "smart meters" over the next five years. Smart meters are digital versions of the spinning electric meters that are omnipresent nationwide. Whereas spinning meters have changed little in more than a century and must be read by workers, smart meters automatically transmit electricity consumption data to a utility. Virtually eliminating human intervention, smart meters promise more accurate measurement of electricity usage as well as increasingly efficient management of energy production resources. Nearly 40 million smart meters have been deployed worldwide, mostly in Europe. Jobs created in this industry can be broadly classified into four categories: installation, manufacturing, research and development, and IT services. First, installation: It typically takes a team of two certified electricians half an hour to replace the old, spinning meter. In one day, two people can install about 15 new meters, or about 5,000 in a year. Were a million smart meters to be installed in a year, 400 installation jobs would be created. It follows that the planned U.S. deployment of 20 million smart meters over five years, or 4 million per year, should create 1,600 installation jobs. Unless more meters are added to the annual deployment schedule, this workforce of 1,600 should cover installation needs for the next five years. Although a surge of new digital meters will be produced, the manufacturing process is highly automated. And with much of it accomplished overseas, net creation in domestic manufacturing jobs is expected to be only in the hundreds. In R&D and IT services, high- paying white-collar jobs are on the horizon, but as with manufacturing, the number of jobs created is forecast to be in the hundreds or low thousands. Now let's consider job losses. It takes one worker today roughly 15 minutes to read a single meter. So in a day, a meter reader can scan about 30 meters, or about 700 meters a month. Meters are typically read once a month, making it the base period to calculate meter- reading jobs. Reading a million meters every month engages about 1,400 personnel. In five years, 20 million manually read meters are expected to disappear, taking with them some 28,000 meter-reading jobs. In other words, instead of creating jobs, smart metering will probably result in net job destruction. This should not be surprising because the main method of making the electrical grid "smart" is by automating its functions. Automation by definition obviates the need for people. In other "clean-energy" sectors such as solar and wind energy, jobs are predicted to emerge in the same broad categories of installation, manufacturing, R&D and IT services, but the near-term expected levels of investment in and adoption of these renewable sources of energy mean that net job creation should top out in the tens of thousands, as opposed to the desired hundreds of thousands or more. Electric vehicles represent another promising green sector, but even if the vehicles were rolled out in substantive quantities, jobs would be created mainly in research and development and infrastructure support, and there, too, only in the hundreds or maybe even thousands. Manufacturing jobs would grow only incrementally since electric vehicle production will for the most part cannibalize that of gasoline- powered cars. For the purpose of creating jobs, then, a "clean-energy economy" will not offer a panacea. This does not necessarily mean that America should not become green to alleviate climate change, to kick its addiction to foreign oil or to use energy sources more efficiently. But those who take great pains to tout the "job-creation potential" of the green space might just end up inducing labor pains all around. [The writer, a director of the Smart Grid Initiative at GE from 2008 to 2009, has worked in the clean-energy industry for a decade. The views expressed are his own. He can be reached at .] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...022503945.html |
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:59:57 -0800, OvarianTumor wrote:
Yeah, Wal-Mart, whose employee health plan carries a $1,500 annual deductible on top of unaffordably high fees, and whose "401K" contributes a generous $5 per employee biweekly. Wal-Mart, whose average worker doesn't make enough money to support even half a family. Wal-Mart can't lower gas emissions without the FULL cooperation of its suppliers, without which Wal-Mart can't exist! Who is Wal-Mart trying to kid? ---------------------- "Wal-Mart promises to lower greenhouse gas emissions by 2015" By Ylan Q. Mui Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, February 26, 2010; A19 Wal-Mart vowed on Thursday to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 20 million metric tons across its vast network of suppliers and stores by 2015, part of the retailer's ongoing efforts to become more environmentally friendly. Wal-Mart said the reductions would more than offset the anticipated growth in its carbon footprint over the same period and was equivalent to taking 3.8 million cars off the road for a year. The cuts would be made throughout its supply chain, from manufacturing to transportation to the sales floor. "We will be efficient," Wal-Mart Chief Executive Mike Duke said in a news conference Thursday. "We will be the leader in retailing, because we will be the first to look at the whole supply chain." The announcement was the latest initiative in the retailer's quest to transform itself into a more sustainable company. When Wal-Mart promised five years ago to create zero waste, use only renewable energy and sell more environmentally friendly products, the call to action rippled across its 8,400 stores worldwide and more than 100,000 suppliers. Company executives said that they hoped this would have a similar effect. "I think this is real leadership," said Fred Krupp, president of the Environmental Defense Fund, a nonprofit organization that worked with Wal-Mart on the project. "Wal-Mart is looking at the big picture." Wal-Mart said it would initially focus on several hundred suppliers and products with the highest carbon footprints. Matt Kistler, senior vice president of sustainability, said that includes reducing transportation emissions and waste for fresh foods and could mean developing new clothing materials that require less energy to clean. The company also announced changes to DVD packages that used less plastic and made them weigh less. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2010/02/25/ AR2010022505453.html Such a typical response from an AGW whacko. Even when a company decides it is going to do all it can to reduce it's carbon footprint, all you can do is complain. |
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Kyle Schwitters writes:
Now let's consider job losses. It takes one worker today roughly 15 minutes to read a single meter. So in a day, a meter reader can scan about 30 meters, or about 700 meters a month. Meters are typically read once a month, making it the base period to calculate meter- reading jobs. Reading a million meters every month engages about 1,400 personnel. In five years, 20 million manually read meters are expected to disappear, taking with them some 28,000 meter-reading jobs. Many non-smart meters are already radio read and don't need a meter reader. The meter reader's job is alreay gone. My gas meter, water meter, and electric meter are all read by radio already, but none of them are a so-called "smart" meter. They have all been radio read for a decade now. The city just installed new radio read water meters because not everyone had one and because they wanted to use the same model for everyone. |
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On Feb 26, 4:59*pm, OvarianTumor wrote:
Yeah, Wal-Mart, whose employee health plan carries a $1,500 annual deductible on top of unaffordably high fees, and whose "401K" contributes a generous $5 per employee biweekly. Wal-Mart, whose average worker doesn't make enough money to support even half a family. This obviously comes as news to you, but not every job can support a family. An employer who pays more than the job earns in revenue will be out of business. Wal-Mart can't lower gas emissions without the FULL *cooperation of its suppliers, without which Wal-Mart can't exist! Wal-Mart is famous for beating up on its suppliers until they give WM exactly what it wants at the price it wants to pay. That is but one of the many, many reasons that I don't shop there. Who is Wal-Mart trying to kid? I don't know who they're trying to kid, but you're certainly delusional. |
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Cindy Hamilton writes:
Wal-Mart is famous for beating up on its suppliers until they give WM exactly what it wants at the price it wants to pay. That is but one of the many, many reasons that I don't shop there. You must not shop at any big box stores because they all beat up suppliers for the best price. |
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On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:10:46 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Feb 26, 4:59Â*pm, OvarianTumor wrote: Yeah, Wal-Mart, whose employee health plan carries a $1,500 annual deductible on top of unaffordably high fees, and whose "401K" contributes a generous $5 per employee biweekly. Wal-Mart, whose average worker doesn't make enough money to support even half a family. This obviously comes as news to you, but not every job can support a family. An employer who pays more than the job earns in revenue will be out of business. And I should care about this exactly why???? Tell us the bad things that will happen to the middle class if Wally World comes to an end. Wal-Mart can't lower gas emissions without the FULL Â*cooperation of its suppliers, without which Wal-Mart can't exist! Wal-Mart is famous for beating up on its suppliers until they give WM exactly what it wants at the price it wants to pay. That is but one of the many, many reasons that I don't shop there. This is especially true for the suppliers of labor. Who is Wal-Mart trying to kid? I don't know who they're trying to kid, but you're certainly delusional. When the unemployment rate is as high as it is labor is a slave. -- "Senate rules don't trump the Constitution" -- http://GreaterVoice.org/60 |
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On Mar 1, 3:13*pm, Michael Coburn wrote:
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:10:46 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote: On Feb 26, 4:59*pm, OvarianTumor wrote: Yeah, Wal-Mart, whose employee health plan carries a $1,500 annual deductible on top of unaffordably high fees, and whose "401K" contributes a generous $5 per employee biweekly. Wal-Mart, whose average worker doesn't make enough money to support even half a family. This obviously comes as news to you, but not every job can support a family. An employer who pays more than the job earns in revenue will be out of business. And I should care about this exactly why???? Tell us the bad things that will happen to the middle class if Wally World comes to an end. It doesn't matter whether you care or not. It's simple arithmetic. Can you please explain how a business could stay in business while paying their employees MORE than the value of their labor? |
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Cindy Hamilton wrote
Michael Coburn wrote Cindy Hamilton wrote OvarianTumor wrote Yeah, Wal-Mart, whose employee health plan carries a $1,500 annual deductible on top of unaffordably high fees, and whose "401K" contributes a generous $5 per employee biweekly. Wal-Mart, whose average worker doesn't make enough money to support even half a family. This obviously comes as news to you, but not every job can support a family. An employer who pays more than the job earns in revenue will be out of business. And I should care about this exactly why???? Tell us the bad things that will happen to the middle class if Wally World comes to an end. It doesn't matter whether you care or not. It's simple arithmetic. Can you please explain how a business could stay in business while paying their employees MORE than the value of their labor? By making more than that on what they sell with a retailler like Walmart. |
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:23:01 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Mar 1, 3:13Â*pm, Michael Coburn wrote: On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:10:46 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote: On Feb 26, 4:59Â*pm, OvarianTumor wrote: Yeah, Wal-Mart, whose employee health plan carries a $1,500 annual deductible on top of unaffordably high fees, and whose "401K" contributes a generous $5 per employee biweekly. Wal-Mart, whose average worker doesn't make enough money to support even half a family. This obviously comes as news to you, but not every job can support a family. An employer who pays more than the job earns in revenue will be out of business. And I should care about this exactly why???? Tell us the bad things that will happen to the middle class if Wally World comes to an end. It doesn't matter whether you care or not. It's simple arithmetic. Can you please explain how a business could stay in business while paying their employees MORE than the value of their labor? Being a moron you have missed the point. Why do I care if Wally World goes out of business????? I do not need to "explain" jack **** to the likes of you. If Wally can't pay its employees then Wally should be replaced by a business that _CAN_. Like all the retailers that Wally crushed in the first place. -- "Senate rules don't trump the Constitution" -- http://GreaterVoice.org/60 |
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