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Property Tax Surprise.

Jeff Thies — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:21:35 GMT

I appealed my property taxes last year and just got the new bill.

Last year it was ~$1,400.

This year, $33.43. Take that OhioGuy!

The house value fell by about 2/3 and it was enough for the
exemptions to cover most of the assessed.

The world is run by loons.

Jeff

Re: Free cell phones for illegal alien welfare parasites - Cost totaxpayers? Over $1 billion/year

Benj — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:20:28 GMT

On Sep 5, 6:45*pm, walt tonne > wrote:

> > * The VAST MAJORITY of illegal aliens in the U.S. receive Food Stamps
> > (this alone makes them eligible for the free cell phones from the
> > government. Just check the eligibility requirements at the second
> > website noted below!
>
> > ITEM:http://blog.heritage.org/2010/01/18/...l-phones-for-t
> > he-poor/
>
> > ITEM:https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enr...blic/Home.aspx

Well this is good news! Now there's no problem tracking all the
millions of illegal invaders! The GPS in every cell-phone can tell
the gummint exactly where they all are every minute...Assuming that
the gummint wanted to know for some reason, of course. They are
probably a lot more interested in where YOU are!

Re: Free cell phones for illegal alien welfare parasites - Cost totaxpayers? Over $1 billion/year

Al[_3_] — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:25:06 GMT

On Sep 5, 6:45*pm, walt tonne > wrote:
> On Sep 5, 2:29*pm, "GeorgeWashingtonFan"
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > * Note to anyone planning to claim "but illegal aliens aren't eligible
> > for welfare!"
>
> > * You're completely WRONG!
>
> > * The VAST MAJORITY of illegal aliens in the U.S. receive Food Stamps
> > (this alone makes them eligible for the free cell phones from the
> > government. Just check the eligibility requirements at the second
> > website noted below!
>
> > ITEM:http://blog.heritage.org/2010/01/18/...l-phones-for-t
> > he-poor/
>
> > ITEM:https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enr...blic/Home.aspx
>
> > "In general, you may qualify if...
>
> > 1.You already participate in other State or Federal assistance program
> > such as Federal Public Housing Assistance, Food Stamps and Medicaid.
> > OR
> > 2.Your total household income is at or below of the poverty guidelines
> > set by your State and/or the Federal Government."
>
> > * FACT: Most illegal aliens receive Food Stamps for their anchor babies..
>
> > * FACT: Virtually *EVERY* illegal alien understates their income when
> > dealing with government programs, be it applying for Food Stamps or
> > filling out free breakfast and free lunch applications for their anchor
> > babies.
>
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++
>
> > * * * What Would America's Founders Say?
>
> > * The two enemies of the people are criminals
> > * and government, so let us tie the second down
> > * with the chains of the Constitution so the
> > * second will not become the legalized version
> > * of the first.
> > * -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * Those who hammer their guns into plows will
> > * plow for those who do not.
> > * *--Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * It does not take a majority to prevail ... but
> > * rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on
> > * setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
> > * men.
> > * --Samuel Adams
>
> > * The strongest reason for the people to retain
> > * the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last
> > * resort, to protect themselves against tyranny
> > * in government.
> > * -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * *A free people ought not only to be armed and
> > * *disciplined, but they should have sufficient
> > * *arms and ammunition to maintain a status of
> > * *independence from any who might attempt to
> > * *abuse them, which would include their own
> > * *government."
> > * *-- George Washington
>
> > * No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
> > * -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * If the freedom of speech is taken away then
> > * dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep, to
> > * the slaughter.
> > * -- George Washington
>
> > * When governments fear the people there is liberty.
> > * When the people fear the government there is tyranny.
> > * -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... Disarm only
> > * those who are neither inclined nor determined to
> > * commit crimes.
> > * -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a
> > * *standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed
> > * *populace.
> > * * -- James Madison
>
> > * If the representatives of the people betray
> > * their constituents, there is then no resource
> > * left but in the exertion of that original
> > * right of self-defense which is paramount to
> > * all positive forms of government ... The
> > * citizens must rush tumultuously to arms,
> > * without concert, without system, without
> > * resource; except in their courage and despair
> > * ... The natural strength of the people in a
> > * large community, in proportion to the artificial
> > * strength of the government, is greater than in a
> > * small ... the people, without exaggeration, may
> > * be said to be entirely the masters of their own fate.
> > * -- Alexander Hamilton
>
> > * All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people
> > * of good conscience to remain silent.
> > * -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * Every government degenerates when trusted to the
> > * rulers of the people alone. The people themselves
> > * are its only safe depositories.
> > * -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * As our enemies have found we can reason like men,
> > * so now let us show them we can fight like men also.
> > * -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act!
> > * Action will delineate and define you.
> > * -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * Merchants have no country. The mere spot they
> > * stand on does not constitute so strong an
> > * attachment as that from which they draw their gains.
> > * -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy
> > * of our monied corporations which dare already to
> > * challenge our government to a trial by strength,
> > * and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
> > * -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * I believe that banking institutions are more
> > * dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
> > * -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * Experience hath shewn, that even under the best
> > * forms of government those entrusted with power
> > * have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted
> > * it into tyranny.
> > * -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > * A Founding Father speaks out on what's nowadays
> > * called "political correctness":
>
> > * Do not suffer yourselves to be wheeled out of
> > * your liberty to publish by any pretenses of
> > * politeness, delicacy or decency. These, as they
> > * are so often used, are but three different names
> > * for hypocrisy, chicanery and cowardice.
> > * --John Adams
> > --
>
> And like dazed sheep the public tolerates the existence of the
> invading cancer cells.

Maybe not so much Walt.
I heard a spokesman for the industry yesterday who said the cost of
the "free" bandwidth was insignificant, pennies per month. They make
it all back with a huge profit as those people add more time and
services that are not free. The poor are probably subsidizing your
phone.

Re: Mosque: Muslims 1, Christians 1, in exciting match!

Edward Dolan — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:57:05 GMT

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
> wrote in message
...
In what promises to be the match of the millennium, the Christians
score a goal in this exciting match between Good and Evil, where we
don't know who's playing who. In Argentina they would shout:
GOOOOOOOOLLLL!!!!!

Across Ground Zero From Mosque Site, Anti-Muslim Venom

The Internet evangelist Bill Keller moved toward the dais in tiny,
quick steps on Sunday, exhibiting the anticipation of a man ready to
address a crowd. Roughly 60 people stood before him in a hotel meeting
room in Lower Manhattan, temporary quarters of his Christian center,
his response to the mosque planned for an empty building nearby.

�If we�re going to do something in New York City, we�re going to do
something that�s not just bold and visible, but something that has a
lasting presence,� Mr. Keller said.

I don't know if they are taking bets, but my bet is on the Christians!

TM is a poor crazy ******* who just posts on his one favorite subject -
hatred of motor vehicles because they interfere with his use of the roads.
His other favorite subject is attacking Christianity. If you respond to this
poor crazy *******, then you are a poor crazy ******* too.

He likes to reference monkeys and other wild animals normally found only in
zoos because he is most likely a wild beast himself. I think he fornicates
with monkeys, but I can't prove it.

TM should confine himself to just one thread instead of proliferating them
like a poor crazy *******. He is insane of course. I liken him to the
village idiot of olden times. The difference these days is that no one any
longer recognizes the village idiot because idiocy has become so widespread.

But I will be here to remind one and all of what a poor crazy ******* TM is.
It is mark of My Greatness that I can still recognize the village idiot even
if the rest of you can't.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Re: I saw "Eat, Pray, Love" and "Eat, Phuck, be Marry" makes so much sense

Edward Dolan — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:54:05 GMT

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
> wrote in message
...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZzmqHJ0gPU
>
> I went to see this light yet deep comedy to make my girlfriend happy
> as well as to learn from such wisdom, and this what I wrote in the
> comments on the bulletin board: "You need a lot of concentration to
> sit through it. Signed, the Wise Tibetan Monkey." My thoughts were
> escaping to these bulletin boards.
>
> To be honest, I saw life in Italy that made sense in their enjoyment
> of life, but the toothless guru in Bali was most disappointing. Of
> course, in true Hollywood style, she found happiness in Bali, in the
> form of a lion who roared his motorboat to escape to a deserted island
> with 500 parrots... I wonder what happened next. ;)
>
> Hey, c'mon guys, you don't need Bali, you don't need outboard
> motorboat, you don't need a credit card to travel in order to be
> happy. All you need is a bicycle, a smart girl and some simple yet
> wholesome food, like peanuts and banana.
>
> Very telling though: She's riding her bike in Paradise and this
> asshole comes in his stupid Totota 4WD (it had to be Toyota), bruising
> her, but also creating the occasion for the affair.
>
> Thanks to the Spirits of the Jungle we have a Wise Tibetan Monkey to
> tell it all like it is --without the praying:
>
> "EAT, PHUCK AND BE MERRY"
>
> We don't live in mental masturbation in the jungle.

TM is a poor crazy ******* who just posts on his one favorite subject -
hatred of motor vehicles because they interfere with his use of the roads.
His other favorite subject is attacking Christianity. If you respond to this
poor crazy *******, then you are a poor crazy ******* too.

He likes to reference monkeys and other wild animals normally found only in
zoos because he is most likely a wild beast himself. I think he fornicates
with monkeys, but I can't prove it.

TM should confine himself to just one thread instead of proliferating them
like a poor crazy *******. He is insane of course. I liken him to the
village idiot of olden times. The difference these days is that no one any
longer recognizes the village idiot because idiocy has become so widespread.

But I will be here to remind one and all of what a poor crazy ******* TM is.
It is mark of My Greatness that I can still recognize the village idiot even
if the rest of you can't.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Re: The Flu Vaccine Scam Rears Its Ugly Head Again in 2010

Twayne[_2_] — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:07:05 GMT

In ,
tmclone > typed:
>> No - much of it is misquoted. See the existing posts; no
>> need to chew it twice. Easy to check for yourself.
>
> You're assuming any of the above morons can actually read.
> They can't.

Try not to project your own problems onto others; you'll feel better for it.

Re: Evolution of the human foot and bicycles

His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:46:54 GMT

On Sep 5, 6:36 pm, (ScienceWins) wrote:
> Saturday I hiked Golden Cup Nature Trail and parts of Cedar Canyon Trail
> before looking for a ravine to spend the very warm night in, hopefully
> along a stream for evaporative cooling.
>
> Heading down the mountain on my bicycle at high speed along curves my
> back brake cable snapped and then the front cable snapped, probably
> because I was carrying five containers of drinking water taken from a
> spring, each container 7 pounds. In a pack on my back, at night in
> the dark swerving around skunks and trying to avoid bears in the dark.
>
> My shoes hit the pavement and I could smell the rubber burning, then my
> filthy socks ripped away, then the calluses went until I got down to
> the meat until finally I got to the lip of the canyon and laid the
> bicycle down to let my jeans rip up some until I stopped.
>
> From there I walked on my bleeding and blistering feet for a couple of
> miles which took me an hour, favoring at least one broken toe on the
> right foot until finally I had enough and got a ham radio operator to
> call my wife for transport the remaining 22 miles.
>
> Question: Does human evolution favor people who do not drive cars? Some
> 50,000 car-related deaths in the United States every year. Does human
> evolution favor people who do not smoke? Some 50 people die from smoking
> or smoking-related illnesses in the US every hour. And yet statistically
> those numbers are insignificant since the majority of those deaths had
> already passed on their genetic codes to the next generation, right?
>
> http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_stat...health_effects...
>
> If I had been required to run down my meals on foot, the broken bicycle
> brake cables would have meant my death by starvation simply because
> my feet were maladapted to serve as brakes, a failing I blame on all of
> my ancestors who came before whose feet were not weeded out of the genome.
>
> ---
> Does belief in astrology cause stupidity?http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm
> Always pull up survey stakes -- Edward Abbey

Humans became bipedal for a reason...

To ride the two pedals.

Seriously, the bicycle is Intelligent Design, but Humans are Stupid
Design --if they were created.

Thus the next step in Evolution is the wheel...

http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE

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long lasting razor

Jeff Thies — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:24:41 GMT

Seems like I only get a shave a two out of a razor before I need a
need one.

What razors have got better longevity or what tricks can I use to get
more shaves?

Google suggests these:

http://www.goodfella.com/razor_blades.html

http://www.greatrazors.com/

http://personalshaversblog.com/how-t...s-last-longer/

Even a decent cheapy disposable would be better than throwing away high
dollar cartridges.

Jeff

Re: Ed Dolan the Great and the denizens of Usenet

JimmyMac — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:15:06 GMT

On Sep 5, 6:07*pm, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
> "JimmyMac" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Sep 4, 10:03 pm, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Your wife is not only long suffering, but she is a saint for putting up
> > with
> > you. Why she has not divorced you years ago is the only mystery worth
> > exploring.
> >> Your opinion matters not because you matter not. *You repetitiously
>
> resurrect, masticate, regurgitate, the same old tiresome grist. *You
> even surpass TM in this respect. *No matter how many times you repeat
> something, it does not become any more true than it was with the first
> utterance. *I've tried to teach you this elementary notion, but unlike
> even a slow learner, you fail to learn even an elementary concept no
> matter how many times you are instructed ... DUH!!!
>
> If I wanted to stalk you, it would be the easiest thing in the world because
> you respond to everything like one of Pavlov's dogs. But stalking is for
> minor actors on the stage of life. It is not for us Great Ones who go our
> own way while permitting the dogs to bark at the passing carnival in the
> night.

Diversion duly noted. And this has what to do in relation that that
which you responded to or not as the case may be? It is interesting
to note that you obviously consider diverting a topic and going off on
a tangent to resurrect mind-numbimg, monotonous regurgitated old
material as a means to advance the discussion. The conundrum
continues.

> Ed Gin played you like a violin, but I am not a scum bucket like him. I do
> not play people, I just tell 'em like it is.

And you were summarily by Ed Gin just like you are ignored by TM, much
to your chagrin. What we have here is yet another fine example of
repetitiously resurrected, masticated, regurgitated, tiresome grist.
You are so boringly predictable. Surely you can do better ... then
again, maybe not. I'm losing patience with your insipid drivel. I
prefer to engage intelligent lifeforms and as of late you have yet to
prove that you qualify.

> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Re: Ed Dolan the Great and the denizens of Usenet

JimmyMac — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:00:02 GMT

On Sep 5, 5:57*pm, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
> "JimmyMac" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Sep 4, 9:58 pm, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
> [...]
>
> > The difference between me and TM is the difference between night and day.
> > It
> > is not even worth discussing - and so I won't!
> >> There are similarities (some of the very things that you condemn TM
>
> for) and fortunately, differences as well. *Not to acknowledge that
> would be to insult TM. *As for your unwillingness to discuss this ...
> GOOD, since there is nothing really to discuss.
>
> Try to insult TM. Go ahead, I dare you. He is such an idiot that he is
> oblivious to insults. That is the one and sole advantage of being the
> village idiot.

TM is ignoring your, and that makes you angry. TM knows that long
before you as much as said so here.. He is playing you and doing
quite well I might add. You hate to be ignore. Tom Sherman knows
that. TM knows that and I know that. Perhaps I should ignore you as
well. Then who would you have to squabble with.

> > > Regards,
>
> > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > aka
> > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Re: Ed Dolan the Great and the denizens of Usenet

JimmyMac — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:55:04 GMT

On Sep 5, 5:53*pm, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
> "JimmyMac" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Sep 4, 9:56 pm, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Nonsense! Many great minds past and present have had a jaundiced view of
> > not
> > only humanity, but also of women. I am in good company. Reread your
> > Machiavelli for men and your Schopenhauer for women.
> >> Dolan has cited two philosophers with whom he is a kindred spirit.
>
> Not only did they have a jaundiced view of women, but they were also
> known to have homosexual tendencies. *Draw your own conclusions. *I've
> drawn mine. *Thanks for the clarification, Ed.
>
> I am not aware that Machiavelli or Schopenhauer were in the least homo. Poor
> JimmyMac thinks anyone who does not like women is a homo, never realizing
> that us hermits and recluses do not like anyone - period!

Tim eto get up to speed on your admired philosophers.

> > >> Another copy and paste reply with end the banter.
>
> > Learn how to advance a discussion if you do not want copy and paste.
> >> Once again, you vainly attempt to accuse another for you shortcoming.
>
> In what way does copy and paste advance a discussion??? *The conundrum
> continues.
>
> It doesn't, which is why I use it on you more than most.

Thanks for the frank admission. Although you accuse others of not
advancing a discussion, you stand guilty of just that (read self-
incrimination).

> > > > Regards,
>
> > > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > > aka
> > > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Re: Democracy is very imperfect (Holland)... that's why God willbring a perfect tyranny

His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle[_2_] — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:46:14 GMT

On Sep 6, 2:51*am, Guy Chapman > wrote:
> On Sep 6, 3:15*am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle" > wrote:
> > On Sep 5, 3:25*pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?" >
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 3, 6:39*pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
> > > the Jungle" > wrote:
> > > > The shortcomings of democracy are evident in Holland among the most
> > > > liberal countries:
>
> > > Holland is not a country. You ,however, are a ****.
> > > --
> > > Guy
>
> > Sorry, you are wrong...
> > "It is both; It's a region in the country the Netherlands and it's the
> > unofficial nickname for the entire country."
>
> Clearly you do not know many Dutchmen. It is an "unofficial nickname"
> among the ignorant only.
> --
> Guy

Check Google. The word "god" appears 621 million times; "Holland" 133
million...

Does that tell you something?

Music CD seller referrals requested

Derald — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:33:50 GMT

I posted a similar request a few years ago but still need relief.

I am soliciting recommendations and referrals to online or direct mail
sellers of used, out-of-print, hard-to-find, or rare ("classical") music CDs.
I am not a dealer or reseller. Quite a number of my music CDs ranging in
age from 20-25 years have become unplayable due to deterioration of the
reflective medium. All are major label; most are "first line". I'm having the
Devil's own time finding replacements. Help.
--
TIA,
Derald

paying $4.95 a month for Internet, but may upgrade

Ohioguy — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:15:20 GMT

I'm paying $4.95 a month for dialup Internet. This gives me about 6
hours of Internet access a day. I've been happy with it in the past,
but nobody can call in or out when I'm online, so I've been considering
alternatives.

We also pay about $28 a month for local telephone, and ~$6 a month
for long distance on calling cards. That's a grand total of $39 a month
for local and long distance, plus Internet.

I had been considering DSL, but that would be $25 a month, and
requires us to have the telephone. My long term goal is actually to
dump the landline telephone, if possible.

I've been looking at cable Internet - we have Timer Warner in this
area. I got a flier last week advertising $29.99 a month Internet, but
that was evidently a "bundle", where you pay them $90 total for
Internet, telephone and TV. We don't have a TV, and I'm not interested
in that.

I think I've also seen "specials" where they advertise just the cable
internet for $35 a month for the first year, then $45 a month after that.

What I'm looking for is some sort of special. I've never had cable,
and I'm hoping to get a really good deal for a long term - something
like 2 years for $30 a month, Internet only.

Anybody know of a website or anywhere that has specials like this
advertised regularly?