file sharing

[Jay]

what is the best way to file share online with out getting viruses?
Don't want to use things like Limewire etc.

I know this might not be the right group to ask this question, but was not
sure where to go and you all have been most helpful in the past.

[Colin Wilson]

> what is the best way to file share online with out getting viruses?
> Don't want to use things like Limewire etc.

Possibly Bittorrent, in conjunction with a "blocker" like PeerGuardian
(http://peerguardian.sourceforge.net) - one small thing to note at the
moment though is the list updates don't work correctly, but... if you
go to isohunt.com you can get a fairly recent set of updates (4th Apr
IIRC) that you simply add locally.

You can get several bittorrent clients, but Azureus is one of the
better supported programs - it has a peerguardian-alike functionality
built in, but i've never been able to get it to work :-}

[Graham.]

"Colin Wilson" .uk> wrote
in message t...
> > what is the best way to file share online with out getting viruses?
> > Don't want to use things like Limewire etc.
>
> Possibly Bittorrent, in conjunction with a "blocker" like PeerGuardian
> (http://peerguardian.sourceforge.net) - one small thing to note at the
> moment though is the list updates don't work correctly, but... if you
> go to isohunt.com you can get a fairly recent set of updates (4th Apr
> IIRC) that you simply add locally.
>
> You can get several bittorrent clients, but Azureus is one of the
> better supported programs - it has a peerguardian-alike functionality
> built in, but i've never been able to get it to work :-}

Definitely Bittorrent. Download Azureus and then visit sites such as
mininova.org. Watch out for ripoff sites that try to charge you to join. You
don't need to pay anything.

[Tony]

"Graham." > wrote in message
.uk...
>
> "Colin Wilson" .uk>
> wrote
> in message t...
>> > what is the best way to file share online with out getting viruses?
>> > Don't want to use things like Limewire etc.
>>
>> Possibly Bittorrent, in conjunction with a "blocker" like PeerGuardian
>> (http://peerguardian.sourceforge.net) - one small thing to note at the
>> moment though is the list updates don't work correctly, but... if you
>> go to isohunt.com you can get a fairly recent set of updates (4th Apr
>> IIRC) that you simply add locally.
>>
>> You can get several bittorrent clients, but Azureus is one of the
>> better supported programs - it has a peerguardian-alike functionality
>> built in, but i've never been able to get it to work :-}
>
> Definitely Bittorrent. Download Azureus and then visit sites such as
> mininova.org. Watch out for ripoff sites that try to charge you to join.
> You
> don't need to pay anything.

Everyone is different but I found Bitlord an easy bittorent client.
http://thepiratebay.org/ has everything purely for evaluation purposes.
I've especially found it great for downloading TV programs that I forgot to
record.

[§|ª®T?ߪRt?@$t]

Winmx or Emule, although Utorrent is good as well.

If you run decent anti-virus software, that won't be an issue.

After many years and almost 1Tb downloaded, no virii ever!

"Jay" > wrote in message
...
> what is the best way to file share online with out getting viruses?
> Don't want to use things like Limewire etc.
>
> I know this might not be the right group to ask this question, but was not
> sure where to go and you all have been most helpful in the past.
>

[Bob[_10_]]

"Colin Wilson" .uk> wrote
in message t...
>> what is the best way to file share online with out getting viruses?
>> Don't want to use things like Limewire etc.
>
> Possibly Bittorrent, in conjunction with a "blocker" like PeerGuardian
> (http://peerguardian.sourceforge.net) - one small thing to note at the
> moment though is the list updates don't work correctly, but... if you
> go to isohunt.com you can get a fairly recent set of updates (4th Apr
> IIRC) that you simply add locally.
>
> You can get several bittorrent clients, but Azureus is one of the
> better supported programs - it has a peerguardian-alike functionality
> built in, but i've never been able to get it to work :-}

OMG the famous Colin strikes again. I wish you would learn a bit before
posting, don't go copying what is found on Google! You are giving
misleading information yet again and not reading the question. You are
answering a question you want to be asked, not the one that was. There is
still a question you have not answered about the claims you made about
circuit boards in ADSL filters in another group! You have a reputation.

Right, a quick lesson in file sharing.

If the person doesn't want to use peer2peer type programs or even Warez
sites then the only way to share files is to use free services like
www.download.com and pay for some versions, or download from a company web
site after paying. A virus can be avoided by using a suitable virus killer.

Peer Guardian is to block IP numbers belonging to various media giants, to
stop IP harvesting and possible legal action. There is nothing wrong with
the update feature in PG, it's just that you might not understand the
program or how to use it.

Azureus is not popular or supported well as it is very memory hungry and
bloated. The best program is uTorrent. Azureus doesn't have many users
because of the bugs, widely documented.
I'll not even explain about half connections and how to modify Windows or
use network shaping to improve the connection.

If you can't get Azureus to block IP ranges, go for port forwarding if a
router is used and configure it according to the instructions. Better
still, pretend someone has posted in a group - then do your usual Google
search, then cut and paste the answer and read it!

[Bob[_10_]]

"§|ª®T?ߪRt?@$t" > wrote in message
...
> Winmx or Emule, although Utorrent is good as well.
>
> If you run decent anti-virus software, that won't be an issue.
>
> After many years and almost 1Tb downloaded, no virii ever!
>
> "Jay" > wrote in message
> ...
>> what is the best way to file share online with out getting viruses?
>> Don't want to use things like Limewire etc.
>>
>> I know this might not be the right group to ask this question, but was
>> not sure where to go and you all have been most helpful in the past.
>>
>
>
It only tends to be a fake keygen or activation program you get trouble
from.
Anything claiming to do something that doesn't seem possible is probably
fake.

[Jim Ford]

Bob wrote:

> Azureus is not popular or supported well as it is very memory hungry and
> bloated. The best program is uTorrent. Azureus doesn't have many users
> because of the bugs, widely documented.

Ermm - Azureus is probably _the_ most popular client used on uk.nova!

So - how many is 'doesn't have many users', then?

Jim Ford

[News Groups]

"§|ª®T?ߪRt?@$t" wrote:
> Winmx or Emule, although Utorrent is good as well.
>
> If you run decent anti-virus software, that won't be an issue.
>
> After many years and almost 1Tb downloaded, no virii ever!

WinMX? Where have you been for the last year?

[DubDriver]

"Colin Wilson" .uk> wrote
in message t...
>> what is the best way to file share online with out getting viruses?
>> Don't want to use things like Limewire etc.
>
> Possibly Bittorrent, in conjunction with a "blocker" like PeerGuardian
> (http://peerguardian.sourceforge.net) - one small thing to note at the
> moment though is the list updates don't work correctly, but... if you
> go to isohunt.com you can get a fairly recent set of updates (4th Apr
> IIRC) that you simply add locally.
>
> You can get several bittorrent clients, but Azureus is one of the
> better supported programs - it has a peerguardian-alike functionality
> built in, but i've never been able to get it to work :-}

Noting the only requirement that the original poster requested was a way to
file share with less likelyhood of downloading a virus, how is he less
likely to do so following your advise? PeerGuardian, as essential as it is,
has the sole purpose (as you know) of stopping organiasations from knowing
what you are downloading, it doesn't block unwanted virus, Trojans etc.
where the risk is equal what ever the source be it Limewire, torrents,
newsgroups ... My advice would be to use them all, just make sure you've got
your anti-virus software sorted! For p2p Limewire would be my favourite.
Bittorrents, as Colin said but I prefer uTorrent. Newsgroups, join
http://www.usenetserver.com/ get GrabIt for free or pay for NewsLeecher,
wealth of stuff and by far the fastest way to get things!

[Colin Wilson]

> OMG the famous Colin strikes again.

I suspect you need to get some facts right yourself !

> Right, a quick lesson in file sharing.

Oh go on then, but bear in mind I was doing this stuff in the early
'90s via a BBS I ran (and helped set up at least 30 others, plus who
knows how many more, as I set up a fully self-contained-unpack-and-run
archive to allow others to do the same).

I don't know everything, I don't allege to.

> If the person doesn't want to use peer2peer type programs or even Warez
> sites then the only way to share files is to use free services like
> www.download.com and pay for some versions, or download from a company web
> site after paying.

The OP wanted to file share, not simply download a freeware /
shareware / commercial app.

> A virus can be avoided by using a suitable virus killer.

Yes, they can, as long as:

(a) the file is a virus in the true sense, given that there are so
many attack vectors into a Windows system these days involving
scripting, worms, desktop hijackers etc.

(b) the virus killer you use actually fully detects ALL of the above -
many of which don't - otherwise there'd be no market for anti-spyware
apps.

I've found new viruses in the wild before now, before the AV companies
even get hold of them to be able to detect them.

If you happen to look at http://www.giac.org I helped Christoper Rowe
(in a minor way) get certified as an incident handler. I still have a
copy of the paper he submitted from June 2003 and his email thanking
me. He was working on Bugbear at the time.

http://www.giac.org/certified_professionals/practicals/GCIH/0448.php

> Peer Guardian is to block IP numbers belonging to various media giants, to
> stop IP harvesting and possible legal action.

Correct, although you forgot to include bogons ("unallocated" IP
ranges that are still mysteriously in use)

> There is nothing wrong with the update feature in PG, it's just that you
> might not understand the program or how to use it.

Now you need to check your facts. It went via Coral Distribution in
January, and is not generally updateable from within PG at all at the
moment. In addition to this Bluetack are having problems with the
distribution of their lists (which PG uses).

> Azureus is not popular or supported well as it is very memory hungry and
> bloated.

Now you're showing yourself up to be a tosser.

> The best program is uTorrent. Azureus doesn't have many users
> because of the bugs, widely documented.

uTorrent is closed source, and they came to a financial agreement with
a media company about 12 months ago, which may or may not have
implications as to the operation of the client. The author says he
won't pass data back to the MPAA / RIAA etc, but he's already taken
money from one of their ilk, so how long until...

> I'll not even explain about half connections and how to modify Windows or
> use network shaping to improve the connection.

Oh go on, we're dying to hear it. No, really.

> If you can't get Azureus to block IP ranges, go for port forwarding if a
> router is used and configure it according to the instructions. Better
> still, pretend someone has posted in a group - then do your usual Google
> search, then cut and paste the answer and read it!

Rather than being a smart-arse sitting back and abusing me, contribute
to the topic then.

You appear to be suggesting that port forwarding is used as an
alternative to blocking IP ranges - what planet are you on exactly ?

So far, you've done nothing as far as either:

(a) correcting any mistakes I may have inadvertantly and innocently
made
(b) showing your technological prowess and done something other than
bitch for a change.

[Colin Wilson]

> Noting the only requirement that the original poster requested was a way to
> file share with less likelyhood of downloading a virus, how is he less
> likely to do so following your advise?

OK, perhaps we need to ascertain the requirements of the OP more fully
before any of us can make a qualified statement about what would suit.

For distribution amongst family and friends, perhaps a simple FTP
server would suffice.

[Taken]

"§|ª®T?ߪRt?@$t" > wrote in message
...
>
> After many years and almost 1Tb downloaded, no virii ever!

No such word, either! And 1 Terabit isn't so impressive. :P

[Colin Wilson]

> If the person doesn't want to use peer2peer type programs or even Warez
> sites then the only way to share files is to use free services like
> www.download.com and pay for some versions, or download from a company
> web site after paying

What about services like these who offer free file hosting ?

http://www.4shared.com
http://www.mediafire.com

[DubDriver]

"Colin Wilson" .uk> wrote
in message t...
>> Noting the only requirement that the original poster requested was a way
>> to
>> file share with less likelyhood of downloading a virus, how is he less
>> likely to do so following your advise?
>
> OK, perhaps we need to ascertain the requirements of the OP more fully
> before any of us can make a qualified statement about what would suit.

Exactly!

> For distribution amongst family and friends, perhaps a simple FTP
> server would suffice.

He mentioned Limewire so I doubt very much that is what he was wanting to do
but, while on the subject I love FolderShare for that sort of thing
www.foldershare.com

[Colin Wilson]

> > For distribution amongst family and friends, perhaps a simple FTP
> > server would suffice.
> He mentioned Limewire so I doubt very much that is what he was wanting to do
> but, while on the subject I love FolderShare for that sort of thing
> www.foldershare.com

That was why I suggested bittorrent, but a certain someone seemed to
have it in for me :-p

[Mark BR]

Tony wrote:
> "Graham." > wrote in message
> .uk...
>>
>> "Colin Wilson"
>> .uk> wrote
>> in message t...
>>>> what is the best way to file share online with out getting viruses?
>>>> Don't want to use things like Limewire etc.
>>>
>>> Possibly Bittorrent, in conjunction with a "blocker" like
>>> PeerGuardian (http://peerguardian.sourceforge.net) - one small
>>> thing to note at the moment though is the list updates don't work
>>> correctly, but... if you go to isohunt.com you can get a fairly
>>> recent set of updates (4th Apr IIRC) that you simply add locally.
>>>
>>> You can get several bittorrent clients, but Azureus is one of the
>>> better supported programs - it has a peerguardian-alike
>>> functionality built in, but i've never been able to get it to work
>>> :-}
>>
>> Definitely Bittorrent. Download Azureus and then visit sites such as
>> mininova.org. Watch out for ripoff sites that try to charge you to
>> join. You
>> don't need to pay anything.
>
> Everyone is different but I found Bitlord an easy bittorent client.
> http://thepiratebay.org/ has everything purely for evaluation
> purposes. I've especially found it great for downloading TV programs
> that I forgot to record.

Just switched from Azureus to uTorrent - much smaller program, much less CPU
usage and much less memory usage. Almost as many features.

In addition my subjective view was it made more connections and downloaded
faster than Azureus - one file I'd been working on for weeks took only a
couple of days to finally complete.

Mark BR

[Taken]

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> OMG the famous Colin strikes again. I wish you would learn a bit before

<snip garbage>

You're an idiot.

[Ayde[_1_]]

Jay wrote:
> what is the best way to file share online with out getting viruses?
> Don't want to use things like Limewire etc.
>
> I know this might not be the right group to ask this question, but was not
> sure where to go and you all have been most helpful in the past.
>
>
Usenet.

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[Dino M]

"§|ª®T?ߪRt?@$t" > wrote in message
...
> Winmx or Emule, although Utorrent is good as well.
>
> If you run decent anti-virus software, that won't be an issue.
>
> After many years and almost 1Tb downloaded, no virii ever!


I am not sure you are on this planet as WinMX does not even exist any
longer.

So are you sure you know about file sharing, as you certainly do not do it
with WinMX, nor have for a good while, as what you have done is like
suggesting that the Betamax version of the latest film is better than DVD.

[Peter]

In message >, Ayde
> writes
>Jay wrote:
>> what is the best way to file share online with out getting viruses?
>> Don't want to use things like Limewire etc.
>> I know this might not be the right group to ask this question, but
>>was not sure where to go and you all have been most helpful in the
>>past.
>Usenet.
>
>Sign up with Giganews or Astraweb,
>get .nzb's from Newzbin: http://v3.newzbin.com/
>use Grabit from http://www.shemes.com/
>
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